B-Sides On-Air: Interview – Cautious Clay Talks ‘Table of Context’, Collaborations

B-Sides On-Air: Interview – Cautious Clay Talks ‘Table of Context’, Collaborations


we’re very happy to have our next guest
joining us on the program is he one and only cautious clay hi welcome back to
San Francisco it’s great to be back I think last time or at least one of the
times that you were here you were DJing at 111 minna an art gallery wow that’s
incredible way back when was that one of your first performances that was my one
of my first yeah it was with this collective I used to be in called proper
vibes and yeah that was my first time one of my first times here yeah
definitely and it’s totally changed probably since I don’t think there was
that big building Salesforce tower building yeah yeah that wasn’t there no
when I was here last so it’s been it’s even crazier to see yeah well it’s a
remarkable feat yeah yeah the name even kind of makes me cringe I won’t lie this
force to our let’s get some perspective on this as a seven-year-old picking up
the flute for the first time trying to jam out to nothing yeah yeah was the
vision in your head as a youngster as a little kid like that like man this is
great I can’t wait to perform shows like this
that you’re doing now and and to be honest adulation, yeah to be honest like
maybe but it was sort of like this rear like way in the back and I thought like
oh man it’d be cool to like cuz I’d love to like sing like fake sing and like lip
sync and stuff to myself like as a kid and just I was always kind of into it
but then I had a very young age I for some reason got into my brain that like
that wasn’t really possible so I was like kind of like wanted to be an
architect like we’re like uh I was really into geography too and like
design and random things like that and I thought that that might be more feasible
for me but I think at the very back of my mind I was always kind of like yeah
this music thing is just it’s so cool but I didn’t know if I was gonna be any
good at it you know like I think a lot of times like you can be passionate
about music but not be good at it right so I find it really interesting that
you’re able to play create music you kind of do by ear even though you
did take lessons and you did go to school to learn music and totaling those
things and so your newest piece material that we have done was just release
reasons yeah totally different yeah in a way and I would say right the only hold
war and the previous cheese resonance and so forth yeah Hudson Mohawke yeah
wasn’t part of that yeah and for those that need a reminder he was integral in
life of Pablo exactly a lot of work with Kanye yeah how did that relationship get
to so we actually met when I was on I was in LA and I after right after I put
out Joshua Tree like this guy Tobias just a junior his management hit me up
and we’re just a cool like I didn’t really know much about him but later
found out that he’s done like a bunch of Adele records and like it’s like worked
in that kind of writing space and I was like at the time not even I’ll just
doing songs in my room you know kind of thing but like he hit me up to write in
LA and I was like cool that come down like I don’t know what this will be but
I mean up writing some really cool stuff together and then he later tells me that
he’s neighbors with Hudson Mohawke and so we wrote a song and then you’re
like oh let’s go over see what Ross’s up to and then like he was just in there
cooking up of like a like a soca type sounding beat and I was like this is
ridiculous sanity like so cool and then and then
that was what would later be reasons this was almost a year ago it’s an
amazing story yeah you know that’s something that I think as a fan as a
listener you don’t get insight to because you figure Oh everybody knows
everybody record labels must hook this up and it obviously must be noted that
yeah they’re still unsigned still unsigned right so it’s kind of like yeah
let’s just poke over next tour and see we literally just went there I was like
oh my god however they’re neighbors anymore unfortunately but they yeah he
was living in Silver Lake at the time and yeah it was so cool like that’s
amazing just kind and and so that leads me to the other relationship that is
pretty high-profile that John Mayer just hits you up on DM
yeah actually you know you’re on his Instagram live in his studio yeah and
you’re knocked out a song or couple songs over there yeah he did a couple
like three or four but like we have one that’s really special it’s gonna be on
the record actually okay and yeah like it was honestly so insane because like
we the first time we met that was when we made that song so a table of context
yeah the EP yeah yeah and so it’s table of contexts this amalgamation of these
collaborations influences what period is this snapshot of material that’s a good
way to put it it’s definitely more of a collaborative project and both resident
blood type which were pretty much my own like there’s I did one collaboration
actually on that with a friend on colony but yeah a smokin French for both my own
and these this next project is very much collaborative but it’s kind of also kind
of like putting together a lot of the subjects that like I talked about
whether it’s like relationships or identity or just like being yourself in
situations that feel uncomfortable it’s kind of like putting all of those ideas
into I think just a little bit more of I don’t know a little bit more of a
minimal approach I’d say then maybe maybe like you know
the thicker comp reductions in blood type or excuse me
even in like friendship yeah so um yeah I think I think it’ll I think it’ll be
just like kind of like yeah the context is is will will be interesting I think
yeah when is this gonna be released February
late February early March oh okay yeah is everything pretty much produced yeah
it’s almost there like we’re kind of doing a little bit on the road even with
Chris my guitar player so we’re like there’s like one song more that I have
to like kind of figure out okay so it’s it’s coming together nice nice I think a
lot of people are really excited about this because they think okay you know
he’s figuring out his sound with a couple of eps and then we’re gonna get
this fuller piece of work and and then again I gotta remind everyone that your
unsigned so it’s not like you have this big machine behind you putting all this
effort hey go talk to John Mayer hey go talk to John Mayer hit me up in the DMS
after an LA show apparently his friend was there yeah and I was just like uh
hey you bro what like so it’s all been very very busy yeah yeah how about the
social life has that improved as well man it’s interesting you say that
because it’s like it’s very much not Andrew is the same it’s pretty insane
now pretty the same like I mean like I definitely get recognized on the street
and whatever but I think like if you were to say yeah like my like who I
talked to no I still want the same yeah yeah same John thing that’s cool that’s
cool I’m sure you’ll have a different story
as time goes on but you seem very grounded and really excited for new
stuff that you thank you so much and can’t wait for the show tonight – oh
thank you I’m really excited yeah best of luck with everything
man appreciate it hm good to meet you too

1 thought on “B-Sides On-Air: Interview – Cautious Clay Talks ‘Table of Context’, Collaborations

Leave a Reply

Your email address will not be published. Required fields are marked *